The troll is forgetting one crucial piece of information. We raise cattle on farms. If we didn't eat them, there wouldn't be anywhere close to as many cows as there are. It's simple supply and demand. Applying the same principal to plants, the more we eat them, the more we grow them.
Whether you believe in a God or evolution, either way, animals were placed/evolved to be eaten. End of story. Now I understand if you simply don't like the taste of meat, but vegan who are all like "Oh the poor animals" annoy the hell out of me. They're animals. It's okay to eat them. They don't know any better.
I am a vegetarian for health reasons. Watch the movie "Forks over Knives" and at least hopefully it will open the door for you to see just how foolish you truly are when it comes to dieting. There are far more risks involved eating meat than positives and even exercising and moderation will not do the trick. Sure, meat could be eaten, but animals aren't meant to be eaten as the main focus of every meal. Meat is a garnish at best.
Joćo Santos the first time i saw it i wasn't going to say anything but when you said, "And I say it again: RENAMED scientists!" i dont care if they changed their name lol, come back when you find some renowned scientists lol jkjk. Just because they have scientists saying something doesnt mean its true, look at all the doomsday theories and crackpot ideas from even Albert Einstein himself, once again even 2012 is supported by tonnes of scientists but i still think it retarded (just out of curiosity whats your opinion on 2012). and dont forget im not saying your wrong, im just saying that i think global warming is happening, am i saying im all knowing and i say its this way so it must be, no, you could be totally right but NOBODY knows for sure not even if every reputable scientist agreed, it would mean it was very likely but not a fact. and stop telling me to be open minded, i am VERY open minded, after all your the one saying im wrong and that your right, im just stating an opinion (with a few random facts) and saying nobady knows for sure
Kurk Knight man just see my third link. its some "anti-conformist" Fox News guy just babblin, but the important isnt wath he says, its what he shows. and if you want, afterwords look up for the same news and then I will shut up ;)
There will be arguments for years and years to come on the topic of Vegetarianism. And I am a vegetarian, but I do realize that the meat market is far too huge to ever hope to have their methods changed. Posts like this though are just ridiculous.
we kill animals and eat them, no harm done. you eat plants, no harm done. whats the problem here, in nature animals get eaten all the fucking time so why do people think it is bad for us to kill and eat them, i dont have ANY problems with vegetarians, but i think that since we are on the top of the food chain, there is no reason to eat nothing but plants
Kurk Knight The problem is with the treatment of the animals, dude. Do you think you are just eating a cow that lived a normal life when you bite into a burger? You're biting into the meat of an animal that was tortured its whole life, and pumped full of chemicals. It's a trillion dollar industry, and its disgusting. You should see how those chicken nuggets, or that bacon you love to chow down on was actually prepared. You'd puke. Of course, I fully understand, you don't need to know or care about how something was prepared as long as it tastes good. And yes, having eaten meat for years, I love the taste. But that's because we were programmed to love it.
Kurk Knight so are you saying that vegans don't eat any meat or animal bi products just to "be the least damaging?"and that only "peace loving hippies" are vegans?
Tyler Kinkaid no, not at all, im just saying that a lot of hippies, vegan or not, do see being vegan as better then...well omnivores... i dont think theres a nother word for it but that sounds kinda funny, but if you ask me, just like other carnivores/omnivores we should be able to eat meat without people getting pissy and saying that we're killing things and its wrong
I've done my research not based on youtube videos LOL that would be stupid.But yeah... I was just argumenting, also, my point of view. If you don't want to understand mine well in 30 years I'll just get back to you and discuss this then! And that movie isn't just an youtube video. its a Movie with scientists from all over the world with big and renamed carrers behind them who are explaining their point of view. And I say it again: RENAMED scientists! from british royal society. Co-founder of Green Peace. British and American presidents of Meteriology departments. The lider of Artic or antartic base of some thing... Its not a bunch if dudes just babblin around. I still recommend you to see it ;)
Joćo Santos lets just agree to disagree then, ive done quite a bit of research on the subject, not just vids on youtube lol, and i believe that there is enough evidence to support my view, if you do or have done the research and still believe that there is no global warming then thats your prerogative, in 30 years or so we will know if it was real or not, well that is unless you believe in 2012 (which i think is a joke), im not saying that i am right and there is no other answer, im just stating my opinion on the subject
Joćo Santos i am the least socially brainwashed person youll ever know, and there is empirical evidence that it is true... so maybe YOU should do your research first, and its people like you, the anti-conformist that wants to be so much different than everybody, then hear any conspiracy theory and think, "oh everyone thinks this way, but this one guy came up with this crazy back story that changes some facts so ill side with him to seem different and intelligent" c'mon dude, dont follow anyone even the "non-followers", just go with the shit that you can see real proof of or logically prove, thats why im into math and physics
ok, i just watched like 10 secs of your first link. are you saying that you believe in global warming just that the above pic doesnt show the real cause. im not necessarily saying that its co2 or any other 1 single thing is, just that it is happening
Kurk Knight You say that really exists REAL proofs ?? then say them tome. Watch my first link and you will see that the real proof that you think its undenieble maybe isn't as reliable as you think.
And really I dont give a single fuck about conformist and anti-conformist. I say what I think, regardless of political connotations and resemblences. I don't want to be different. I want to know the thruth. I formulate my opinion but I also see the other side of the coin. I call it open minded. Maybe you should try it, instead of watching "like 10 secs" of my first link. See to believe. I also like to remind you that I though that global warming existed, but with the "anti-conformist" sh**, you say its no proofed, I changed my position on this subject. Just watch man, you could not change your opinion- and thats not what I want- but you could open your mind just a little bit more, see my point of view and understand it.
Kurk Knight ignorance?? ignorance is what I call when you argument with "common sense". Your common sense is what other people want you to think. I can say one thing: if you rely on the news that you hear, then consider yourself an IGNORANT. Search and do your homework before you talk. I once though the same way that you do, but one day I sarted opening my mind and looking and reading some things from the "other side" and finnaly I came to my conclusion. Do the research and then draw your conclusion. Don't argument without seeing the whole picture because you are just another "zombie" being controled. JUST WAKE UP AND SEE.
Do your homework. Start from this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtevF4B4RtQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmjJURp0z40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNbxYVa2VjA
The troll is forgetting one crucial piece of information. We raise cattle on farms. If we didn't eat them, there wouldn't be anywhere close to as many cows as there are. It's simple supply and demand. Applying the same principal to plants, the more we eat them, the more we grow them.
Actually, cows wouldn't exist at all if we didn't eat them. Well, we might still have them for milking purposes...but in any case, cattle was selectively bred from the now-extinct aurochs by ancient pastoral tribes. ...So I guess that also damages the argument.
Kurk Knight How do you find a vegan on dudelol? Don't worry, he'll let you know. :)
If, in this scenario, two opposing forces are on nearly the same plane of evil and there is a more extreme variation of one of those two clearly that is a more extreme evil. I could have said people who eat religiously at Mcdonalds except we know that's not real beef.
Kristen Lewis umm... do you think im vegan, hahaha, biggest steak or viel man ever, but yeah, idk, if you ask me ide say that its all food and ment to be eaten, but a vegan i suppose since they dont kill any animals would be considered (at least by peace loving hippies) to be the least damaging not hte most but whatever no nead to argue
Actually they would likely still exist in India due to the the cows sacredness there, pretty much asking to get shot in the head if you eat beef there.
Seems like you are all forgetting one crucial piece of information. This is a "troll". It doesn't have to make sense, and it's main purpose is to get people irritated and make long replies.
Seems like you are all forgetting one crucial piece of information. This is a "troll". It doesn't have to make sense, and it's main purpose is to get people irritated and make long replies.
Oh come on people! It was a joke! Anyone can sit here and point out the spotty logic, or expose all of the technicalities, but in the end, a joke is a joke. Leave it as it should be.