In a Bad Economy
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Alejandro Matias Ravasio That's hilarious, considering those are highly-desired jobs that pay very well. Anyway, the relation of education to experience can be very interesting. I went to culinary school for awhile, and I noticed a couple of things: 1. a degree was not a substitute for kitchen experience, but at the same time 2. without a degree, people would hit a cap on how much money they could make. For example, a su chef without a degree might never make more than $15 an hour, whereas, one with a degree is a good candidate for a salaried employee.Alejandro Matias Ravasio That's hilarious, considering those are highly-desired jobs that pay very well. Anyway, the relation of education to experience can be very interesting. I went to culinary school for awhile, and I noticed a couple of things: 1. a degree was not a substitute for kitchen experience, but at the same time 2. without a degree, people would hit a cap on how much money they could make. For example, a su chef without a degree might never make more than $15 an hour, whereas, one with a degree is a good candidate for a salaried employee.
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Kristi Noel Beck Ah, that's because you are designing graphics and animating. This post is about real professions.Kristi Noel Beck Ah, that's because you are designing graphics and animating. This post is about real professions.
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Kristi Noel Beck And I'm speaking as someone with some college education. Real world experience trumps college experience.Kristi Noel Beck And I'm speaking as someone with some college education. Real world experience trumps college experience.
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go to college? :/go to college? :/
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But college doesn't give you experience...it gives you an education, which is completely different.But college doesn't give you experience...it gives you an education, which is completely different.
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And even then, the education part can be debatable.And even then, the education part can be debatable.
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The vast majority of the places I've worked accepted 4 years of college as at least 3 years of actual experience. If I spent 4 years designing graphics and animating, that's 4 years of experience of designing graphics and animating whether I was being paid or not.The vast majority of the places I've worked accepted 4 years of college as at least 3 years of actual experience. If I spent 4 years designing graphics and animating, that's 4 years of experience of designing graphics and animating whether I was being paid or not.
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Kristi Noel Beck Meh, that's one example of one industry. As an employer, I'd rather hire the candidate with 3 years actual experience as a manager than somebody who went to business school and has a bachelor's degree. Real world experience trumps college experience.Kristi Noel Beck Meh, that's one example of one industry. As an employer, I'd rather hire the candidate with 3 years actual experience as a manager than somebody who went to business school and has a bachelor's degree. Real world experience trumps college experience.
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Lmfao, so true.Lmfao, so true.
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true! :Dtrue! :D
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truthtruth
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hell to the fucking ya!hell to the fucking ya!
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Welcome to my so called job search.Welcome to my so called job search.
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solution=diction+syntax :)solution=diction+syntax :)
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Story of my life...ugh.Story of my life...ugh.
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Alejandro Matias Ravasio Yeah, a real profession that makes me over 50 grand a year (not including freelance) and I've only been out of college for 2 years. *shrug*Alejandro Matias Ravasio Yeah, a real profession that makes me over 50 grand a year (not including freelance) and I've only been out of college for 2 years. *shrug*
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Ben Miller That's a happy medium, but that's the rare minority. In what most cases are, real world experience will trump college "experience". I'd rather have somebody who actually knows how to make a high quality pot roast from experience than somebody who learned it from a book or a controlled kitchen environment. I have been to college, got a degree in business management, and trust me...my degree did not prepare me as well as I thought it would for management.Ben Miller That's a happy medium, but that's the rare minority. In what most cases are, real world experience will trump college "experience". I'd rather have somebody who actually knows how to make a high quality pot roast from experience than somebody who learned it from a book or a controlled kitchen environment. I have been to college, got a degree in business management, and trust me...my degree did not prepare me as well as I thought it would for management.
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You stop applying for the job you think you deserve and get in a job at a place you want to work. Then get the job you want after you are there awhile.You stop applying for the job you think you deserve and get in a job at a place you want to work. Then get the job you want after you are there awhile.
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true! :Dtrue! :D
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Story of my lifeStory of my life
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This question keeps me up at night.This question keeps me up at night.
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The raptor knows everything.The raptor knows everything.
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I like to think of this raptor as raptor Jesus....or at least a disciple of :)I like to think of this raptor as raptor Jesus....or at least a disciple of :)
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i ask myself this question ~ 3-4 times per weeki ask myself this question ~ 3-4 times per week
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A fucking MenA fucking Men
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Finally someone who understands where I'm coming fromFinally someone who understands where I'm coming from
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hell to the fucking ya!hell to the fucking ya!
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That's an easy one. You call your favorite uncle, Tell your uncle he's now your former manager or is a small business owner in the field you need experience in, and that you worked for him for 3-5 years. Then you simply lie to your future employer. Like a boss.That's an easy one. You call your favorite uncle, Tell your uncle he's now your former manager or is a small business owner in the field you need experience in, and that you worked for him for 3-5 years. Then you simply lie to your future employer. Like a boss.
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if that works then OJT's are meaningless besides I guarantee that those who did that will almost definitely won't get a job.most workplace actually searches your ToR to know if you are up to the job.you wouldn't wannahire incompetent people right?if that works then OJT's are meaningless besides I guarantee that those who did that will almost definitely won't get a job.most workplace actually searches your ToR to know if you are up to the job.you wouldn't wannahire incompetent people right?
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stupid that's why there are the so called OJT's it gives you on hands experience for your fieldof work.dude my friends did go to OJT's and those that needs 5 yrs of experience hires them..stupid that's why there are the so called OJT's it gives you on hands experience for your fieldof work.dude my friends did go to OJT's and those that needs 5 yrs of experience hires them..
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Internship.Internship.
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Internship.Internship.
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and when they get somehow experience they are too old for most of the jobs.and when they get somehow experience they are too old for most of the jobs.
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accept the challenge... they just want to see if you have the balls to apply.accept the challenge... they just want to see if you have the balls to apply.
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accept the challenge... they just want to see if you have the balls to apply.accept the challenge... they just want to see if you have the balls to apply.
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FUKYFUKY
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bribery, friends on the inside, tit for tat, be attractive, lie, cheat... plenty of ways.bribery, friends on the inside, tit for tat, be attractive, lie, cheat... plenty of ways.