haters make the world go 'round
and by round i mean they talk about how stupid people are and then eventually murder them because of they believe something which the haters can't disprove
practically the same thing
Tim Peterson I'm not for murder, everybody is entitled to their beliefs and entitled to voicing their beliefs. This post, however, isn't simply voicing a belief (or lack thereof) in a civilized manner. It's inflammatory, offensive, and bigoted. It's completely obtuse and one sided. If somebody had a similar post but it was making fun of Blacks, Arabs, Asians, etc it would go too far. So why is it acceptable to be a bigot towards one demographic and not another?
Shane Wilson We are just making up lost time for the centuries above bigotry and abuse we have been subjected to. Making a anti-athiesm post sounds fun and all, but your argument will likely be obliterated and mocked and the act of posting will reveal the hypocrite in you.
Emory Babb are you literally saying it's ok to be hateful because some people i don't know were mean to some people you don't know?
anti-atheism posts abound on the internet they usually say "nothing happens and then nothing existed and then boom a universe"
and the argument doesn't get obliterated, someone inevitably suggests that the rules of causality don't have to be followed in an absolute lack of space-time, which results in space-time existing, because it doesn't but in pre-existence-land it does
and we end up in the same place we started:
some people think there's a god, some people don't, some people aren't sure.
tl;dr some 13th century frenchman decided he was gonna murder some people and saying god told him to do it seemed like a reasonable excuse. that doesn't make me a murderer
Tim Peterson Yeah, those arguments generally end in two independent cycles of circular logic with people "shouting" their beliefs and ignoring anything else on screen. But my point is that there are bigots on both sides and pointing them out is redundant and irrelevant. What are you trying to say in the last two lines?
And a reply to your second comment. Athiests don't kill people for their beliefs. Totalitarian communist governments do, using the in-group vs. the out-group. There are no "non-holy" wars or "atheist martyrs".
Emory Babb i don't see the difference. many religious crusades were backed up by the government too.
they don't call them non holy wars but they are groups of people who believe one thing killing group of people who believe something else
i was saying that i have never killed anyone for not believing, and you have never been killed for not believing, so i don't owe you anything and you don't owe me anything
He's not related by blood, its his step-granddaughter and he is denying it. If you're wondering why it took him so long to deny it, its because that would have just given the subject unneccasary attention.